tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1835455773953043846.post6250362438563088875..comments2024-01-12T18:59:05.080+00:00Comments on Defence With A "C": UKIP... I'll take the first watch (Ba-dum tish!)Unknownnoreply@blogger.comBlogger8125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1835455773953043846.post-11816037438049754072013-06-23T18:20:26.318+01:002013-06-23T18:20:26.318+01:00I think the big problem is that people have always...I think the big problem is that people have always cared about the issues of immigration and Europe, the main parties have just never taken that debate seriously. I think now they're starting to realise it can be an issue that might swing a tight election, hence they've all started to get in on the act.<br /><br />Next on the list, a devil's advocate post.Chrishttps://www.blogger.com/profile/18182426936194426623noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1835455773953043846.post-16661802065023887162013-06-22T11:23:47.344+01:002013-06-22T11:23:47.344+01:00I think Chris is right in so much that most people...I think Chris is right in so much that most people when push comes to shove wont trust UKIP with their vote but that also assumes they dont sharpen up in the next couple of years.<br /><br />We might think of UKIP as an influencer, the mainstream parties see the shift in peoples thinking as evidenced by UKIP success and respond accordingly.<br /><br />Anyway, good piece Chris, you are spot on with pointing out the silliness of some of their stuffthink defencehttp://www.thinkdefence.co.uknoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1835455773953043846.post-25675736108067000512013-06-21T18:16:10.216+01:002013-06-21T18:16:10.216+01:00@ HurstLlama,
Eventually real work catches up wit...@ HurstLlama,<br /><br />Eventually real work catches up with us all. We must strive onwards, to abusing our Internet privileges! And political chat is fine by me. <br /><br />I just can't see UKIP pulling it off when it counts. I think people are smart enough that they'll see through the hype. I mentioned my Dad. He's not a huge politics person to be honest. But even he can see that UKIP is not a viable answer for government. <br /><br />Maybe all of us who comment over at TD should band together and form a party? If it goes the way most of our discussion go... we wont even be able to agree on the colour of sh**e.Chrishttps://www.blogger.com/profile/18182426936194426623noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1835455773953043846.post-83474707190770154592013-06-21T11:51:03.861+01:002013-06-21T11:51:03.861+01:00Morning Chris,
Sorry for the delay in replying, b...Morning Chris,<br /><br />Sorry for the delay in replying, but I have actually had to do some work this week (I got through it OK and am now feeling much better).<br /><br />I hesitate on your blog to slide too far away from defence and into politics, but I must say that I don't believe the UKIP representatives and their policies will stand serious scrutiny. However, I am not sure that matters. The feeling that UKIP are "on my side" will, indeed, probably already has, change the terms of the debate.<br /><br />As to whether UKIP representatives are of a sufficient calibre to cope with the realities of government. The likes of you and I may say not, but jut look at who has had office over the past twenty of thirty years. Not many intellectual titans there and very few who would have passed the RCB. HurstLlamahttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01086351645473769872noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1835455773953043846.post-68325112405092728682013-06-16T14:13:43.125+01:002013-06-16T14:13:43.125+01:00Morning Hurst, and I'm not so sure.
After the...Morning Hurst, and I'm not so sure.<br /><br />After the county council elections I asked my father (give him a plug as its fathers day) how he voted and he said "UKIP". The reason was because he wanted to show the main parties that issues like immigration and the EU mattered to him, although perhaps he chose the wrong place and time to make that protest (incidentally the UKIP candidate won in his area).<br /><br />However, when I asked him whether he planned to vote the same way at the General election his immediate response was to laugh quite hard. He knows, fundamentally, that UKIP are not ready for that level of responsibility and as their policies come under more and more scrutiny, so they lose more and more wind from their sails. <br /><br />Certain moments give their party a lift (or at least ammunition), like the reaction of those yobs who mobbed Farage when he went to Scotland. But when the nitty gritty details of their policy gets aired, that's when things start to go wrong. <br /><br />I personally can't wait till UKIP is engaged in a TV debate on healthcare and their plans for the NHS. The backlash from that is going to be something special. <br /><br />Chrishttps://www.blogger.com/profile/18182426936194426623noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1835455773953043846.post-13604977216148617822013-06-16T14:00:09.354+01:002013-06-16T14:00:09.354+01:00Hi Topman,
Erm, no, is the answer. I suspect it&#...Hi Topman,<br /><br />Erm, no, is the answer. I suspect it's more to do with the hope of saving money, or being like the big cousins with an air natinal guard, than any sort of genuine need. <br /><br />Penny wise, pound foolish it would appear?Chrishttps://www.blogger.com/profile/18182426936194426623noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1835455773953043846.post-49098918019910494262013-06-15T22:04:47.977+01:002013-06-15T22:04:47.977+01:00Like most of UKIP's policy positions their def...Like most of UKIP's policy positions their defence paper doesn't actually add up. However, it is the sentiment rather than the specific that is gathering them support. <br /><br />For those of a certain state of mind the question, "Should we be spending £10bn on overseas aid to places like Pakistan (which has its own nuclear weapons programme) or use most of that £10bn to boost our defence, and in the process create thousands of high-skilled jobs in the UK?" has only one answer. <br /><br />Right or wrong, like it or not, UKIP is gathering support from those who feel the present lot (Lab, Lib or Con) have forgotten them.HurstLlamahttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01086351645473769872noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1835455773953043846.post-34534917738715356832013-06-15T20:46:39.283+01:002013-06-15T20:46:39.283+01:00Hi Chris
Is there any reason given why UKIP thin...Hi Chris <br /><br />Is there any reason given why UKIP think GR4 should be moved into a reserve fleet and to what end? As you've stated their would be little savings, there is/would be a larger flying program than most people would imagine. I don't really see their point. I suspect they have few people to grasp any idea of defence or foreign policy.Topmannoreply@blogger.com