tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1835455773953043846.post8824332777769762486..comments2024-01-12T18:59:05.080+00:00Comments on Defence With A "C": The escort is dead. Long live the escort.Unknownnoreply@blogger.comBlogger8125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1835455773953043846.post-89082961482974809582020-03-21T07:11:18.695+00:002020-03-21T07:11:18.695+00:00Just read this.
Maybe you have the same dry sarcas...Just read this.<br />Maybe you have the same dry sarcastic humor as myself, but it was a good read and the bits crossed out put a smile on my face and at time laugh out loud.<br /><br />Given the times we are living in, thanks for brightening up my day.Andrewnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1835455773953043846.post-52070045163895256002020-02-28T01:38:50.111+00:002020-02-28T01:38:50.111+00:00SeaViper is good but T45 the ship is not so good. ...SeaViper is good but T45 the ship is not so good. T45 can't go anywhere by itself. SeaViper is too precious.<br /><br />110 is too small. If we are buying hulls we need ones that keep up in any seas with the carrier just in case it has to do so.<br /><br /><br />I think T26 will be a good ship. Still the spec of ours seems to fall short of what the RAN will be getting. <br /><br />I agree the word escort is perhaps reaching the end of its useful life. I just wish the RN hadn't started using the term General Purpose.stevehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/13440640503681625170noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1835455773953043846.post-49767106841858063852020-02-28T00:15:36.670+00:002020-02-28T00:15:36.670+00:00We don't really think or fund strategically th...We don't really think or fund strategically though do we. T45 was supposed to 12 ship run, then 8 then 6. OK, you have six high end air defence ships, so why stick a 4.5 on the pointy end, as you are never going to send it on an NGS job? Well because at the time we had them and could not afford to introduce 56mm or 76mm guns. Could it however, have a suite of strike length VLS cells to throw some Tomahawks around while doings its AAW role? Nah, no money for that either.<br /><br />T26, could have used T45 hull with different machinery. However I guess it has done pretty well in the export markets, so should not complain about the design. However, again open ocean towed array ASW specialist, hanger only big enough for 1 Merlin and a very expensive 5 inch gun ? Perhaps that money could have been spent on VL-ASROC for the ASW ship ? Or really radical, if your going to have ship launched torpedos, then make them fullsize 24 inch one's as carried by subs! Nope, that would be expensive.<br /><br />Still, pretty good AAW specialist ships, and pretty good ASW specialist ships - please note I am not calling them escorts, or destroyers or frigates. They are simply warships, with an equipment fit that gives them a specialist role. They can cruise the oceans unaccompanied, or they can escort high value units as part of a task unit / group / force. <br /><br />T31, big ol boats! I personally would have gone with BMT Venator 110, but to me this would be the vessel that needs the 5 inch gun. Not an AAW specialist, not an open ocean ASW specialist, so the kind of ship it makes more sense to send close in shore with a gun, thus giving a "full on war role". Said gun also good for it's "anti-small boat swarm" role if forward deployed somewhere where they use small boat swarms. Given enough cash, this large hull vessel could carry plenty of offensive and defensive kit, but it appears we are more interested in getting some hulls in the water, so a ridiculously small number of SAM's and two new types of gun it is then. There has not been a single long term plan since the design of the T45, no strategy. Well I mean there was the national ship building strategy, so now we have more OPV's too.... but we bounce from budget driven force design, to budget driven force design, which means all of our ships will get used for everything at some point or another, even harbour training ship.JedPChttps://www.blogger.com/profile/06090008973629372385noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1835455773953043846.post-64923498238512901152020-02-27T22:20:36.089+00:002020-02-27T22:20:36.089+00:00All this talk of a navy without escorts and modula...All this talk of a navy without escorts and modularity yet the Royal Navy is running out of the platform that can to some limited extent can substitute for a ship and is the ultimate module, the helicopter.<br /><br />I agree with you about the Mission Bay in T26. All this talk of SF boats and drones is reaching. By the time drones are clever enough to do all things many on defence blog comments want them to do the T26 will be going out of service. Shades of the Sandys' White Paper.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1835455773953043846.post-40238468793276711422020-02-27T19:30:22.529+00:002020-02-27T19:30:22.529+00:00Calling Geoff Hoon. Calling Mr. Hoon.Calling Geoff Hoon. Calling Mr. Hoon.Chrishttps://www.blogger.com/profile/18182426936194426623noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1835455773953043846.post-18932363781045388772020-02-27T19:29:32.007+00:002020-02-27T19:29:32.007+00:00Getting all the naval puns in on that one!Getting all the naval puns in on that one!Chrishttps://www.blogger.com/profile/18182426936194426623noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1835455773953043846.post-13738684316509426772020-02-27T17:53:58.913+00:002020-02-27T17:53:58.913+00:00T45 should have been Burke-esque and there should ...T45 should have been Burke-esque and there should never have been a T26. The RAN will get more value out of the Hobarts backing the Hunts than we will get with T45 working alongside T26. If we had built 16 of those we would have ships to protect the carrier, a ship for the Atlantic, and one to potter about the Indian Ocean / Gulf.<br /><br />That would perhaps leave space for a CODAD light frigate with SeaCeptor, rafted diesels, a decent hull sonar, and provision for TAS. It would still be a 6000 tonner though not so light. But all modern ships are large.<br /><br /><br /><br /><br />Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1835455773953043846.post-30204001375100227502020-02-26T00:27:15.464+00:002020-02-26T00:27:15.464+00:00A, that boat has sailed. The T31 is already well o...A, that boat has sailed. The T31 is already well on the way to being designed. And<br />B, It is cheaper because it is based on an existing design.<br /><br />Do agree tho', it would have been better to have designed the T31 as a small asw ship to release the t26 to go walkabout, sorry, sailabout.Mr Shedhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/12736787154023573364noreply@blogger.com